CRM discusses GOP nomination, evangelicals in politics with "Jesusland" author David Jeffers
David Jeffers, author of Understanding Evangelicals: A Guide to Jesusland, announced his support for GOP presidential candidate Fred Thompson this week by stating that Thompson is "far and away the best conservative candidate to represent those who live in Jesusland." In our interview with Jeffers, the retired Army Master Sergeant and Liberty U grad elaborates on his support for Thompson, shares reservations about Mike Huckabee's candidacy, and makes his case for a strong evangelical presence in the political arena. David Jeffer's blog, Salt and Light, can be found at http://davidjeffers.thevanguard.org/.
Jeff Wright: Earlier this week you announced your support for Fred Thompson. Why did you decide to support Thompson for President and why should other conservative evangelicals do the same?
David Jeffers: I've been following Fred Thompson for about a year and a half, reading his columns and news commentaries on ABC radio (available on his website http://www.fred08.com/) and immediately I was reminded of Ronald Reagan's messages in the late ‘70s. As I wrote in my news release that although "every GOP candidate is espousing Reagan-like characteristics, but only Thompson has the record to back it up."
Other candidates are making far-flung promises about issues near and dear to evangelicals, but Thompson is the only candidate who is not pandering to evangelicals and telling them straight the right way to take care of issues in our country. While I understand the need for and support the eventual passage of a Federal Marriage Amendment, most Americans, including most evangelicals, do not understand the long and arduous process of passing a constitutional amendment. Senator Thompson is a constitutional scholar as well as a former legislator so he understands the challenges, but more importantly he is a federalist and wants to see the states under the direct power of the people. This is the way our Founding Fathers intended us to govern.
I'll be writing a column about why it is best to allow the citizenry to determine social issues.
So to answer your question, as a conservative evangelical, if you do your homework, you will clearly see that Fred Thompson is the best candidate.
JW: Although conservative evangelicals are supporting various candidates, Mike Huckabee seems to be the candidate of choice for most evangelicals. Why should conservative evangelicals switch their support from Huckabee to Thompson?
DJ: I've outlined my reservations about Governor Huckabee in my latest article on the New Media Journal titled “An Evangelical’s Huckabee Hesitancy” so I encourage your readers to have a look at that, but as I wrote in the article, primarily “my concern with Governor Huckabee is that he will rely too much on government to fix problems facing Americans, when it should be Americans fixing their own problems with a little help from their friends and not Uncle Sam.”
The government is not how evangelicals should try to fix problems; the government usually is the problem. In my book Understanding Evangelicals: A Guide to Jesusland, I have a chapter on Economics and I address what role the government versus the Body of Christ should play in helping the downtrodden. I look at how the Church has over time ceded ground to the government and we need to regain that. Governor Huckabee is a proponent of big government and his record in Arkansas proves as much. I would highly recommend reading the Club for Growth’s Huckabee White Paper as well as the other papers on the GOP candidates. Governor Huckabee responds to CFG’s white paper by name-calling them the Club for Greed. He seems to resort to that a lot when he doesn’t have a definitive answer for an issue raised about his record.
JW: Many conservatives agree that Thompson is the most conservative candidate but say they will vote for someone else because Thompson does not have a chance at winning the nomination. Do you think Thompson has a real shot at winning the nomination? How do you persuade voters who like Thompson but will not vote for him because of concerns over electability?
DJ: If I did not believe Senator Thompson had a chance to win I would not be investing my time and money in him. The only advice I can give to those concerned with Thompson’s electability is:
1) Stop watching the polls and get outside of the media bubble. The media generate polls to make news. Very few give a good feel for what actual voters feel, with the exception of Rasmussen Reports and they have the race a tight five-way race.
2) In the primary process we are supposed to nominate the best candidate, not the most electable. This concern comes from an almost unhinged paranoia of Hillary Clinton becoming the next president; that means we are voting against someone and as Christians we should not be doing anyone harm. Let’s get behind the best candidate, work hard, and trust that the people will get behind a real leader. That was Reagan's magnetism and the more people get to know Thompson the more they will like him. This is already happening in South Carolina.
JW: Religion has been a hot topic throughout the campaign and some criticize evangelicals for the way they have mixed politics and religion in recent years. Have conservative evangelicals crossed the line when it comes to politics today? Are you satisfied with the current nature of evangelical involvement in politics or do we need to re-evaluate our investment in the political arena?
DJ: I did a message at my church a while back titled “Do Religion and Politics Mix” and the answer, based off of Scripture and the words of our Founding Fathers is a resounding yes! I also conducted a four-part study (can be done in a half-day) titled “Our American Christian Heritage” using the Coral Ridge Ministries DVD “One Nation Under God.” Both of these clearly show that we as evangelicals are to be very involved in politics. One quote I always turn to is from our first Chief Justice of the Supreme Court and a Founding Father John Jay:Providence has given our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as privilege and interest, of a Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers.
We as evangelicals have been literally bludgeoned behind our church wall by the fallacy of separation of church and state.
So I am very unsatisfied with our involvement in politics and that was one of the reasons I wrote my book and am offering my services to churches and civic organization to come and speak and help educate or re-educate the role of Christianity in civic affairs.
JW: Your book, "Understanding Evangelicals: A Guide to Jesusland," offers to help readers better understand evangelical beliefs and values. What have you found to be the most misunderstood aspect of evangelicalism today?
DJ: Many Americans fear that evangelicals want to change our democratic form of government to a theocracy. There is this misplaced fear that evangelicals are intolerant and suffering from an “us against them” mentality. So I approached this project with the intent of first explaining who evangelicals are, why we believe the Bible to be the inerrant Word of God, why there is absolute truth, and how we view different social issues in the light of Scripture. It is a primer not only for the secularists, but also the evangelical. One reviewer wrote that my book was a “much needed concise yet comprehensive primer for Christians who wonder what God actually says about the various social and political issues of our day.” That was my goal.
JW: Thank you for your time!
DJ: It has been a pleasure and an honor.





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11 comments:
Huckabee wants to have adulterers, homosexuals and rape victims stoned to death. He also wants to make alcohol and music videos illegal, and make women 2nd class citizens and to take all girls out of school.
Oops, my bad, that's another 'religion'.
Hey, anybody but the PIAPS!
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I hate to be the party pooper, but I don't get the comparisons between Thompson and Reagan. I've talked about this with people before. Reagan was the total package, Thompson doesn't even compare.
First, Reagan genuinely wanted to be President. He ran twice ('68 and '62) before finally capturing the nomination. Besides that, Reagan was the Great Communicator. He had the ability to work with the other side...he worked with Tip O'Neill and the Democrat controlled Congress and got moderate Dems to vote for him (Reagan Democrats).
Thompson seems like he doesn't really want to be President and has been forced into this. He has only recently seemed like he cares. I would also be reluctant to compare Thompson to Reagan since Thompson supported both of Reagan opponents when he was seeking the nomination (Ford and Baker). I also wouldn't say that Fred is as pure as people may think. Afterall, he did support McCain/Feingold. This isn't to say Thompson is bad, but I don't think the comparisons to Reagan quite hold up.
Also, I would be really reluctant to trust what the Club for Growth has to say. Recently it has come out that Romney and his supporters have heavily contributed to the Club for Growth. I have also read many things that seem to show Huckabee's tax record in a different light than what they say.
Oops, I meant '68 and '76 in the last post.
You're right, Fred's wife is probably nagging him into it. I like his philosophy the best. Too bad he doesn't have a better shot.
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Man, I have to agree, comparing Thompson and Reagen is like comparing a Toyota to a Mercedes. Both are good, but one is in a class by itself. Thompson looks beaten when he talks. Somehow I get the impression he is really sorry he didn't come out of the gate quicker and actually get into the race when it started. So much for strategy!
"Reagan was the Great Communicator. He had the ability to work with the other side...he worked with Tip O'Neill and the Democrat controlled Congress and got moderate Dems to vote for him (Reagan Democrats)."
I know I sound like a broken record now, but this is what matters. Ultimately, the President has very little power of his own. His power is influence, persuasion, and getting people to work together. It's not an easy job.
I know this will rattle some cages but McCain is probably the best bet when it comes to pulling both sides together. He's a bit old school but he's a politician and knows how to work the system. And like it or not, that's where it's at.
So shoot me now!
Reagan is the gold standard for conservative Republicans. Its doubtful that a candidate is fully going to be able to put themselves on the same level as Reagan. On the other hand, Reagan wasn't quite "Reagan" until he was actually President. The circumstances he faced, the way he governed as Pres. made him the Reagan we refer to. Not that he didn't have a lot going for him before he became Pres. So its not quite fair to knock someone for not being Reagan until we see how they govern as Pres. After Bush's first term we were able to say that he was no Reagan.
Thompson might not be Reagan but its generally acknowledged that Fred is the most consistently & comprehensively conservative candidate of the bunch. I continue to say, the primaries are the time to pick the BEST candidate. "Best" should be defined primarily by principles, track record, and platform. Who they are, what they believe, how they governed/will govern. Electability is a part of the equation but it should not be the driving force. We need to look beyond the horse race aspect of the race.
"He had the ability to work with the other side...he worked with Tip O'Neill and the Democrat controlled Congress and got moderate Dems to vote for him (Reagan Democrats)."
I was too young to have firsthand knowledge of the details of how Reagan worked with the Dems but it is my understanding that it looked quite different than the way some GOPers operate today. Reagan led in such a way that the American people and many in Congress got on board with his, his agenda. That is certainly how it was when it came to foreign policy and a good deal of the time domestically. Today, a Republican working well with the other side means caving in to the Democrat's positions (and therefore their ideology) and governing in a way that earns kudos from the NY Times editorial pages.
That is John McCain. Except McCain takes it a step further and seems to go out of his way to stick a thumb in the eye of conservatives time and time again. He is not trustworthy on immigration, appointing judges, taxes, global warming. I'm really not even sure how he is seen as Mr. Foreign Policy. What we are seeing right now is the emotional appeal of his war hero status. Don't get me wrong, I'd rather have McCain as Commander in Chief than any of the Democrat candidates.
"Thompson seems like he doesn't really want to be President and has been forced into this. He has only recently seemed like he cares."
Well, he is showing that he cares now so get on board!
"So shoot me now!"
OK! ;)
Today, a Republican working well with the other side means caving in to the Democrat's positions (and therefore their ideology) and governing in a way that earns kudos from the NY Times editorial pages.
I think this is unfounded and sounds a bit extreme. Getting people to work together does not mean caving in on positions or buying into an ideology. This is exactly what Reagen did. He picked his battles very carefully. People are still people and I believe they want to work together. Taking the position that one is caving in or buying into an ideology when they work together is too strong of a statement. To say that everything the Dems lay on the table is flawed and everything the Reps put forth is great is unbalanced. The Dems are not our enemies, they are part of our American government. Certainly they do have some different ideas, but they are not anti-American and I don't think they are anti-Christian. There are some very devoted Christian Democrats. I don't agree with their ideology most of the time, although sometimes I do, but I do think there is wisdom in a multitude of counselors. That is why our government works so good together. Lately, the other side (Dems) of our wonderful American government, a government that has proven to be effective for a couple hundred years because of the balance of powers, has been painted as the enemy. I don't think it is healthy.
I also think Reagen was a very accomplished politician as governor of California. Even then he was able to get people to work together. So, while I agree Thompson would do a reasonably good job, he's still no Reagen, nor do I think he could live up to the standard. I'm just not a big Thompson fan. I also think the Hannity's and Limbaugh's have painted McCain in a little worse way than should be. I don't think he is putting his finger in anyone's eye intentionally. He's just not caving into the positions of the far right and buying into their ideology!
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